After soccer melee, Egypt learns tough lesson: sharing blame

Police react as chaos erupts at a soccer stadium in Port Said, Egypt on Wednesday.

By Ayman Mohyeldin , NBC News correspondent

News Analysis

CAIRO – Tragedy. Conspiracy. Massacre.

However you decide to describe Wednesday’s deadly melee at an Egyptian soccer game that left 74 dead, one thing is for certain. It is being described as a blemish on Egypt and Egyptians.

In merely a few hours, more Egyptians were killed than in any single day in Egypt’s nascent revolution.

The incident cuts across much deeper issues in a country where soccer and politics intersect at all levels of society and social classes. Wednesday’s violence highlights shortcomings in the country’s sporting culture, free-speech psychology and politics. It exposes mistrust that defines the transforming relationship between the state’s security and its citizens: failing to define each other’s responsibility to the other. And it sheds light on the country’s past, while offering a glimpse into its democratic future, where officials are held to account and the public also must hold itself responsible for violating its own set of values and morals.


Those responsible for the violence at Wednesday’s game were Egyptians. Period.

Now, they could have been instigated, motivated and, even more sinisterly, hired to carry out these attacks on each other.  But in the end, they were all fellow countrymen representing broader groups of society, whether they be pro-revolutionary, pro-military, remnants of the old regime or simply thugs. Today the country had to face up to that fact.

At least 74 people were killed and hundreds more injured when rival soccer fans in Egypt rioted after a match. NBC’s Ayman Mohyeldin reports from Cairo.

Culture of insults
I have been attending soccer games in Egypt since I was a little boy. I and the millions of other Egyptians who attend these games are always somewhat entertained by the verbal abuse leveled at officials, opposing teams’ fans and their players. From derogatory chants to straight-up provocative curses, nothing is off limits at these games.

And although I did not attend the game between Al Ahly and Al Masry on Wednesday, the run-up to the game and the chants heard during the game itself reflect a culture in which insults, taunting and provocation are not the exception, but the norm.

Such a culture demeans the very sport. And in a country where tensions are already high, the notion that fans can demean each other along political lines reflects the growing fragmentation in Egypt’s post-revolutionary transition. It was reported that Ahly fans repeatedly taunted the home crowds, unfurling insulting posters and accusing them of not supporting the populist revolution that “liberated the country.”

Your soccer team is political statement
At the forefront of sports and politics are the die-hard fans of prominent clubs like Al Ahly and Al Zamalek, known in Egypt as the Ultras. The very name Ultra is meant to connote the most extreme level of loyalty by the fans.

Egypt’s sporting clubs reflect complex layers of the country’s past and current power structure. Al Ahly was founded by staunchly anti-British republicans. Al Zamalek drew its support from the country’s colonial British administrators and their monarchist allies. Even Egypt’s security apparatuses field top-flight teams from the army, police, military industry and border guards.

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Egyptians sit on a sidewalk in front of the Al-Ahly sporting club in Cairo, Egypt, Thursday. A network of soccer fans known as Ultras vowed vengeance, accusing the police of intentionally letting rivals attack them because they have been at the forefront of protests over the past year, first against former leader Hosni Mubarak and now the military.

Who you support makes a difference in Egypt. Why you support them matters even more. When teams reflect such historical and cultural differences, it’s not surprising to find tension and violence at sporting events. At a time when sport could be a healing and unifying factor in the country, it has emerged as divisive theater.

In recent weeks, the Ultras of both Al Ahly and Al Zamalek have made reconciliatory efforts to each other. But it’s a small drop in the bucket following years of deep animosity. It was up to the moral conscience of the storming fans to realize that they were committing murder.

In the absence of security or riot police and in the presence of instigators or saboteurs, where was the moral conscience of Egyptians at the stadium to realize that storming the field in celebration is one thing, committing murder with weapons is another? Have Egyptians become that immune to violence to no longer draw the line of distinction? Are they so easily manipulated to carry out such attacks by larger societal powers?

Ultras Ahly carry even more political baggage, because they were at the forefront of 18-day street protests against the Mubarak regime and the military council that inherited power after the revolution. The Ultras Ahly have drawn on their past years of battle-hardened stadium experience with riot police in their ongoing confrontations with the military and the security forces. That has drawn them admiration and support from pro-revolutionary movements in the country for sustaining pressure on the military rulers despite “revolution fatigue” in some corridors of the country. It has also drawn anger from parts of the country that see sustained street protests as undermining the country’s stability, democratic transition and economic recovery.

Police complicit or just ill-prepared?
But unlike in previous soccer-related violence, Wednesday’s incident had a suspiciously high death toll. Despite the presence of security and riot police in visibly large numbers, the rampaging crowds were pretty much unhindered as they stormed the field. This has led many to question whether a sinister plot could have been tacitly in place to allow for such violence.

Many speculate the military council and its backers gain by exploiting such acts of “chaos.” Others simply say that this is an example of the incompetence of poorly trained security forces that are incapable of dealing with large crowds without brute force.

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An Egyptian man cries as he joins others in prayer outside Al-Ahly club in Cairo on Thursday.

I wonder what the public reaction would have been if police had used overwhelming force to subdue the on charging crowds and prevent the fan-on-fan violence. There surely would have been public outcry against the security forces for suppressing rowdy crowds.

It’s a lose-lose situation for the security forces. Act and suppress the crowds, and the police will be condemned for cracking down on what would surely have been described as a “post-victory celebration.” Stand by and do nothing and they are accused of complicity in the killing of fans. Therein lays the dilemma that Egypt’s security apparatus faces: a crisis of confidence and credibility. But above all just poor technical capabilities in crowd control.

Even when the state is expected to uphold its responsibilities and preserve law and order it is handicapped by the lack of trust the general public has in those forces. Perhaps the police were ordered to avoid direct confrontation to precisely avoid the risk of injuring disorderly fan. Is there a solution where by the police are allowed to use force to subdue disorderly conduct that is disruptive to the public good. When and who gets to make the distinction between civil disobedience and free-speech protests where police are expected to keep a distance; and disorderly conduct where police must preserve law and order?

New political theater
Enter Egypt’s new parliament. This trying experience has been baptism by fire for the new parliamentarians who spent the better part of Thursday debating what they as a body can and should do. As the only democratically elected state institution in the country, it has been among the most responsive so far.

Members of parliament took to the airwaves on Wednesday evening condemning those responsible, while vowing to hold them responsible. On Thursday the entire body took up the matter. They summoned the prime minister and five other ministers to an emergency session to discuss the matter. Feeling the heat, the prime minister walked into the People’s Assembly by saying the governor of Port Said had resigned and top security officials were suspended

Parliamentarians did not hold back their criticism of the government’s handling of the situation – they put the blame squarely on the military, its prime minister and the security forces for failing to preserve the public order. The proceedings happened live on television as millions of Egyptians and Arabs across the world watched hours of uninterrupted debate.

In the end, it was decided that the minister of interior will be investigated for his handling of the situation, many called for his sacking.

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Egyptian protesters fly their national flag and the flag of the Al-Ahly sporting club while they rally in solidarity and support for the club and chanting anti-ruling military council slogans on their way to Tahrir Square, Cairo, Egypt on Thursday.

It was an example of a budding democratic body attempting to hold officials accountable. In the long run, it may prove to be fruitless, and the parliament may lose the zeal it demonstrated Thursday, but it does for now meet the immediate expectations of many citizens. How far the parliament can push its accountability will be tested in the coming days and weeks.

But the violence in Wednesday’s tragedy also teaches one more important lesson, as one Egyptian Ahly fan told me, “We as a country must learn to share the blame for what we do, not just simply get used to assigning blame.”

Ayman Mohyeldin is an NBC News Correspondent currently based in Cairo, Egypt. He was born in Cairo and lived there until age 5. He spent a lot of timing visiting family there as a young adult and has been working on and off in Egypt since 2005 for CNN, Al Jazeera and now NBC News. He has attended both club and national soccer team games since he was a child.

Rebellious Chinese village takes baby steps toward democracy

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A villager shows off his ballot before dropping it into the ballot box beside an election worker at a polling station at a school in Wukan village in Guangdong province on Feb. 1.

By Bo Gu, NBC News

BEIJING – Wukan, a village in Guangdong province in southern China, is making headlines again – this time for taking the first steps toward open and transparent elections, which 7,688 villagers participated in on Wednesday.

Wukan was in the spotlight late last year for a high-profile protest by villagers against local officials believed to be illegally selling public land to developers. 

The 11-day rebellion was defused peacefully in late December after senior Communist Party officials reached an agreement with Wukan’s protest leaders – promising free elections and an investigation into the murky real-estate deals. They also promised to investigate the death of a protester who had died in police custody.


In another surprise, the local Communist Party appointed Lin Zuluan, one of the well-respected leaders of the defiant revolt, as the village party secretary. So Lin served as the chief in command for the first balloting that took place in the Wukan Elementary School Wednesday.

Villagers gathered in a festive scene to cast votes, for many the first time ever, to select an independent election committee to oversee upcoming ballots.  

Initial steps
Dozens of aluminum ballot boxes were placed around classrooms at the elementary school and students were mobilized to help count the ballots before they were distributed. Teachers helped elderly villagers who could not read or write.  A media counter was set up outside the school, and journalists were allowed in after registration.

“My biggest impression here at Wukan is that the atmosphere here is very different from any other Chinese villages,” one Chinese reporter at the scene wrote on Sina Weibo, the Chinese microblog. “The people here are very used to foreign journalists walking around filming. The village committee is open to everyone. Every family invites you to go to their house to stay, to eat or to drink tea. Brave and lucky Wukan villagers made their home different than any other Chinese villages with the same problems.”

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Residents register before casting their votes during the first-ever open democratic elections for the village committee in Wukan, in China’s Guangdong province, on Feb. 1.

The election lasted nine hours (with a two-hour break). It began at 9 a.m. with the national anthem playing and fireworks being set off – a Chinese tradition during the new lunar year.

The final results came at 11 p.m.: Out of the 50 candidates, 11 (including one woman) were elected to be on the election committee.

The new members will be responsible for organizing an upcoming election for the Wukan Village Committee. They will devise a plan for the election process; mobilize and familiarize the villagers with the new plan; scrutinize and publish the candidate list; and, most importantly, organize the villagers to vote. The election is due to start in early March.

Not a new idea
Village-level elections are not a new concept to Chinese people, but seldom are they transparent or democratic. The Communist Party still maintains single-party authority across the government – from Beijing to the smallest village – and has absolute control.

There have been experiments with grassroots elections since the 1980s – the outcome is usually just pre-determined from above. Representatives are often appointed by higher-level government officials and the process is usually murky or manipulated.

In Wukan, the former village head had been in power for 40 years without ever being properly elected. He was accused of misappropriating public land and embezzling compensation money that belonged to villagers.

So many are hopeful Wukan’s experiment will spread.

“Wukan is a start of China’s local political reform! I hope to see a real self-rule in the countryside,” wrote a Weibo user going by the name “Orient leaping towards wealth.”

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A Chinese man fills out his voting form as residents cast their votes during the first-ever open democratic elections for the village committee in Wukan, China on Feb. 1.

The user added, “Villagers that have both traditional legal culture and modern citizen spirit, they are the hope of China’s democracy.”
‘An experiment in democracy’
But others are not so sure about declaring a democratic victory in Wukan.

Chang Ping, a veteran journalist based in Hong Kong who has been closely following events in Wukan, is not so optimistic about its future.

“Their path is not going to be very smooth. The Guangdong government was smart about not cracking down with violence like other local governments, but that doesn’t mean they agree with complete self-rule. They will try to absorb Wukan into their old system, which they can still control. If that happens, the election will be the same election happening everywhere else,” Chang told NBC News in a phone interview. “Wukan’s protest has no end. Democracy doesn’t arrive just because you had three months of protest.”

However, Chang agreed that the event is revolutionary – if only as an exercise in how elections are supposed to work.

“Most of the elections we see are usually manipulated or the villagers don’t really know what their vote means. But Wukan villagers have their own understanding of voting, after their protest to finally obtain this right,” said Chang.  “It is an experiment in democracy, and it will affect other places in China.”

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Pakistan and NATO officials downplay Taliban report

By NBC News

NATO and Pakistan leaders were scrambling to downplay a leaked report Wednesday featuring testimony by Taliban detainees who claim they are winning the war in Afghanistan, and poised to take over again once international forces leave, thanks in large measure to help from Pakistan’s security services.

NATO officials confirmed the existence of the report, called the State of Taliban, was which obtained by the BBC and The Times of London and is based on 27,000 interrogations of 4,000 Taliban prisoners. 

Claims that Pakistan’s top spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate, commonly known as the ISI, support the Taliban in Afghanistan are not new, but the report can still be regarded as a damning assessment of the war dragging into its 11th year.

So it was not surprising to see myriad responses to the allegations – not just from NATO and Pakistani leaders, but Taliban sources, too.

Here are some of the responses to the report compiled by NBC News reporters in Afghanistan and Pakistan on Wednesday:

Lt. Col. Jimmie Cummings, Spokesman for NATO’s International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan
“The classified document in question is a compilation of Taliban detainee opinions based on interviews and comments they have made while detained.  It’s not an analysis, nor is it meant to be an analysis of the current operational situation.”

Siamak Herawi, Presidential Hamid Karzai’s Deputy Spokesman
“This is not something new, we have said many times in the past that groups inside of Pakistan are helping terrorist organizations.”

BBC: Secret report reveals Pakistan-Taliban ties

Taliban commanders:
Three senior Taliban field commanders in Afghanistan’s troubled provinces Paktika, Khost and Kunar told NBC News they could neither confirm nor deny any support from Pakistan.

They said only that they received support in the form of financing, weapons, and fighters from “various Islamic countries” to continue their “jihad.” They said financing and the availability of weapons were no longer problems for them.

The Taliban leaders, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said seizing control of Afghanistan will be easy once foreign forces withdraw from the country.

“There are pro-mujahedeen Islamic countries and a large number of kindhearted people who have been supporting us in this jihad against the non-Muslims who had invaded our homeland,” one commander based in Paktika, near the border with Pakistan, told NBC News.

The mujahedeen refers to Islamic fighters who fought the Soviet occupation in the 1980s.

The Taliban stopped trusting Pakistan after it joined U.S. and helped remove them from power, the Paktika commander said.

Another Taliban commander in Kunar’s Watapur areas said the United States has lost the war against Taliban and was now coming up with excuses to explain its defeat.

“We are back in power now because of our sacrifices and support of mujahedeen from all over the world, including Europe. Even the Afghan government and those influential Afghans who had earlier supported Americans in their occupation of Afghanistan had accepted us as the next rulers of the country. We had set up sharia (Islamic) courts in Kunar and Nuristan and have our own police and governors.  The Afghan police and government officials are referring cases to us,” the Kunar commander said.

Another Taliban leader, known as explosives expert, said “gone are the days when Taliban suffered from shortages of resources and weapons to fight against their enemy.”

The group had now developed good contacts with “mujahedeen groups and their sympathizers” in every corner of the world, he claimed.

“The Americans are leaving soon and that’s why they started financing and strengthening all groups that are against us. The Americans wanted to create the same situation that emerged after Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan and all former mujahedeen groups indulged in internal fighting and caused heavy losses to the Afghan people,” he added.

Pakistan’s response 

The report was revealed at an inopportune time for Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar who was in Kabul on a diplomatic visit on Wednesday. “I can disregard this as a potentially strategic leak … This is old wine in an even older bottle,” she told reporters in Kabul, reiterating Pakistan’s denials it backs militant groups.

Three Pakistani security officials tell NBC News that without having seen the report, they would be unable to comment in any detail. None, however, said that they were surprised by the nature of the leaked information.

“The theme of the article is not new,” said one senior Pakistani security official, referring to the BBC report. “So, what’s new?” said another, when asked about the NATO report.

There is a widely-held belief among Pakistan’s security establishment that their country has played the role of scapegoat for what they see as a failed U.S. mission in Afghanistan, and today’s news seemed to fit that pattern, to many.

“The report has not been made available,” said Pakistan Military spokesman Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas. “And leaks are not worth us commenting on.”

Khalid Pashtoon, member of Afghanistan’s parliament
“I thought this had been leaked ages ago!” he laughed at the NATO report stating that these findings are nothing new.

“[NATO] reiterated again the ISI involvement with Taliban.  Everyone obviously knew that ISI is supporting the Taliban.”

“ISI is not just supporting them but they are controlling them.  Everything we see and hear from the Taliban is organized and written by the ISI. This is something pretty obvious and this has been going on since 1994.”

“Right now, there is a huge rift between the Taliban.  The Taliban who are fighting inside of Afghanistan are against reconciliation.  And they’re angry at their leadership.”

Pashtoon said this is good news for stability.  He says that Taliban fighters feel betrayed by their leaders and the ISI for supporting peace talks after they have shed so much blood fighting for the cause.

Afghan Foreign Ministry: “NO COMMENT.”

NBC News’ Atia Abawi contributed to this report from Kabul, Afghanistan. Amna Nawaz and Fakhar Rehman contributed to this report from Islamabad and Mushtaq Yusufzai contributed reporting from Peshawar, Pakistan.

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